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  • Nancy Moore posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   11 hours, 36 minutes ago · View

    Hi hi,
    I have been without computer during a house move for a few weeks. If you asked for a copy of my Odyssey stuff and I didn’t reply please email me again and I will send them over!
    Thanks
    Nancy

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  • Anna Cushing posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   6 days, 11 hours ago · View

    Help!!!!! Calling all teachers with experience of teaching the Cicero module on AQA CIV1F. I have to teach this next term for the pupils who are re sitting the exam in January. I have only 1 term in which to raise them at least 2 grades and have never taught this module before. Can anyone advise on where to start please and suggest any good resources?? Many thanks, Anna

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      Catharine Jessop · 6 days, 7 hours ago

      Hi Anna, do I remember rightly that you’re at Aldenham? I might be able to help – email me on cjessop@habsgirls.org.uk.

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      Fiona Forsyth · 6 days, 7 hours ago

      Hi Anna, I would defintely concentrate on two books as you haven’t much time. The new Lactor on Cicero’s Consul ship campaign looks excellent – it wasn’t published when I did this topic but I would certainly use it now. And John Murrell’s ”Cicero and the Roman Republic” was first-rate, I thought.
      If your students have a good grasp of the Roman political background, then the selection of letters may well be a useful point to start revision. My lot found a lot of the rather elusive references baffling. Good luck!

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        Anna Cushing · 5 days, 11 hours ago

        Thank you very much, I have ordered the books you suggested and am busy wading through some more. Fingers crossed!

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      Fiona Forsyth · 6 days, 7 hours ago

      Realise I have answered as if for OCR – apologies, though I stand by those two book recommendations Anna!

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      Tara Ryan · 5 days, 10 hours ago

      Murrell is a good overview, including *some* but not all of the set sources, but others as well. Scullard’s From the Gracchi to Nero is always good for basic, but sound, chronology. Make sure you download the student guide to answering the exam questions from the AQA website as well – it’s something they may or may not have been given as it’s in an odd place: http://web.aqa.org.uk/qual/gce/humanities/classical_civ_materials.php?id=10&prev=10

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  • Paul Saunders posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 2 days ago · View

    And do make sure you get the correct edition of the Odyssey as specified by the exam board; there are at least 3 different Penguin editions current. I recommend the Rieu [revised by Rieu] edition. It also contains synposes of each book at the front to help you get a quick idea of the story.

  • Paul Saunders posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 2 days ago · View

    Also, try http://www.cambridgescp.com – myths & storytelling section. A bit babyish, but quick and easy to follow with useful [for you at least] information about Greek heroes, Gods & Goddesses, plus some audio resources.

  • Paul Saunders posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 2 days ago · View

    Deborah – you try to run before you can walk. Read the book first.

    Show students a map; ask them what they know about the Trojan War and where their knowledge came from [probably film Troy] -; show them a clip.
    It doesn’t matter where you start; could start with Cyclops story – show them a picture from a Greek vase and get them to read the incident in Book9 of Odyssey and compare the two. Then take it from there. As as novice to this, I’d stick to simple whole-class reading with questions and discussion of themes that arise within the book. Or get students to act out the part of one of the characters.

  • Deborah Wiltshire posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 2 days ago · View

    Dear All,
    My ignorance will be on full display again-but how do you set the scene if they know nothing? How do you choose a starting point?
    How do all of you who teach Odyssey, start? (or is it the culmination of input lower down the school?)
    Deb (the grateful)

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      Catharine Jessop · 3 weeks, 2 days ago

      Now I haven’t actually taught this for A level and I suppose it depends whether they did GCSE Class Civ or not and if so what topics they did. But if it was me I think I’d start with a chat about Homer and epic poetry: who was he if he existed at all, talk about oral tradition (how the poems probably weren’t written down at first, why this was the case, why do people love being told stories) and about what we mean when we talk about an ’epic’ (of course this word has now replaced ’wicked’ in kidspeak so that could be quite a good jumping-off point). What do they think would be the features of an epic, can they think of any other examples – they might have done some in English(Paradise Lost? Beowulf? The Lord of the Rings?) and what makes each a good story? Then maybe explore what they may already know about the Trojan war story and take it from there. Sorry, this is a bit stream of consciousness and there will be at least as many ideas as there are teachers!

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        Deborah Wiltshire · 3 weeks, 2 days ago

        Thanks for reading my posts-they are coming at this cold (as am I). They are year 10s on an accelerated path, so they and I have been allocated to each other and this course. I definitely know nothing (as you will tell from my posts), as year 10s, am pretty sure they will not have been exposed to Beowulf or paradise lost, but am prepared to be proven wrong.

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          Catharine Jessop · 3 weeks, 2 days ago

          Bet they’ll have read stuff like Eragon which (while not very good) is an imitation epic (journeys, battles, monsters, heros). Maybe ask their English teacher what if anything they might know?

  • Deborah Wiltshire posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 2 days ago · View

    Paul,
    Book ordered from Amazon late last night (although the muppet in me forgot to get the free supersaver delivery).

  • Catharine Jessop posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 2 days ago · View

    Another resource you could use is the retelling of the Iliad and Odyssey stories by storytellers produced by the Cambridge Schools Classics Project on CD (War with Troy: the story of Achilles, and Return from Troy: the story of Odysseus). These are aimed at a younger audience but are still spellbinding and enjoyable by all ages. You could listen in the car yourself and then maybe use them in the classroom too! Good luck!

  • Nancy Moore posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 3 days ago · View

    Hi Deborah
    I have made booklets for the Odyssey both for year 10 and year 12. They are for OCR but may be useful. Email me nancyjmoore@gmail.com and I’ll send them over. Also there is a made for TV film version. Not the greatest attempt ever but certainly good for prompting discussion. Mine is from Amazon.
    Nancy x

  • Paul Saunders posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 3 days ago · View

    Deborah

    This is the book I’m recommending I know it’s based on a different translation from the one you’ll be using with the students, but it’s indispensible. Details below from Amazon.

    Homer’s ”Odyssey”: A Companion to the English Translation of Richard Lattimore (Classics companions) by Peter Jones (Paperback – 1 Jun 1991)
    Buy new: £11.99 £10.79

    7 new from £5.88 15 used from £0.05

    Get it by Tuesday, Aug 17 if you order in the next 68 hours and choose express delivery.
    Eligible for FREE Super Saver Delivery.
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    Paul

  • Paul Saunders posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 3 days ago · View

    so many things you could do – but essential for them [and you!] to have basic understanding of Trojan War. Could show students ’Troy’ but beware ’hollywoodesque’ tendency to distort. Go for myths of ’Golden Apple’ and basic outline of the War culminating in Wooden Horse. That should whet their appetites. Then the scene is set for post-war Odyssey. Read the book with students [they NEVER EVER read it themselves!]. Books 1-4 form Telemachy [i.e. the scene on Ithaca, Odysseus' home] where Od.’s son Telemachus and his mother deal with suitors who have moved in and try to take over. Books 5-12 introduce to Odysseus and retell his adventures since leaving Troy [Cyclops story etc.]. The Books 13 to end chart Odysseus back on Ithaca and his gradual reestablishment of himself as king [i.e. kills suitors etc.]. All with help from his patron goddess, Athene, plus assistance from his son and others. Panic not – the storyline is straightforward. Once you read it [and don;t forget to get Peter Jones book which will help you enormously] you’ll have lots of ideas. Themes such as Revenge and Divine interventions are obvious; look out for xenia [offering and receiving hospitality] – this is a favourite theme; also slaves’ loyalty and disloyalty; Odysseus’ leadership qualities etc. Good luck!

  • Deborah Wiltshire posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 3 days ago · View

    Paul, Julie and Rod- I am and will remain eternally grateful!! Will get myself a copy of Odyssey tomorrow and start reading. All pointers to get me going in the right direction gratefully accepted-if any of you ever find yourselves having to teach German or French , am happy to repay you as have schemes of work, power points and worksheets galore!!
    Will start by reading the book myself as you all (tactfully suggested), but how would you set the scene for the pupils?
    As ever, my heartfelt thanks for your patience and offers of help.
    Deborah

  • Paul Saunders posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 3 days ago · View

    Hi Deborah. I just caught up on this. Go for Homer’s Odyssey. You need to read through the whole book yourself: not arduous as it’s an easy read and will also go down well with students. I suggest you also trawl through some of the resources on the Classics Library: loads of brillant helpful stuff there. Get a copy of Peter Jones’ commentary to the Penguin – it’s thorough but highly readable and will fill you in on the relevant themes for each of the 24 books.[chapters are called books]. That should help you a lot. For each prescribed book [chapter] students need to know the storyline and be able to respond to questions on characters as well as themes which are outline in the specification. Let me know if you need further help/resources. Paul

  • Deborah Wiltshire posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 3 days ago · View

    OOps-now see why I am worried! Have a lovely group of year 10s-but think only 1 boy, so which would you choose? I obviously need to be a little a head of them, so where would you start?
    Deborah

  • juliewolseley posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 3 days ago · View

    you poor thing!. Homer produced both the Iliad and the Odyssey. Iliad I think is much more serious (and better) but more difficult. Odyssey more to do with fantasy, monsters etc. Necessary background is listed in spec. Most important thing is for students to have thorough knowledge of what happens in the poem, before you start to look at themes. It’s really a matter of which epic your students will prefer- war or monsters. Hope this helps.

  • Deborah Wiltshire posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 3 days ago · View

    How much scene setting do you do? and are there any good sources you can recommend?
    Thank you for your patience!
    Deborah

  • Deborah Wiltshire posted an update in the group AS/A2 Classical Civilisation:   3 weeks, 3 days ago · View

    this will sound silly, but which is easier to master? Homer or iliad?

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